WIKILEAKS DROPS MORE SHOCKERS RE: TORTURE POLICY

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Subject: RE: GTMO, Torture, renditions, etc.
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:16:16 -0500
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From: "Stern, Todd" <Todd.Stern@wilmerhale.com>
To: "Christopher Edley" <cedley@gmail.com>, ricesusane@aol.com, 
 "John Podesta" <john.podesta@gmail.com>, 
 "Lisa Brown" <lisabrown3660@gmail.com>, "Don Gips" <don.gips@level3.com>, 
 "Melody Barnes" <mbarnes@barackobama.com>, 
 "Cassandra Butts" <cbutts.obama08@gmail.com>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Edley [mailto:cedley@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:15 PM
To: ricesusane@aol.com; John Podesta; Stern, Todd; Lisa Brown; Don Gips;
Melody Barnes; Cassandra Butts
Subject: Re: GTMO, Torture, renditions, etc.

Thanks susan -- as to whether we should do more, I don't know. Why
don't I put on my board hat, with permission of melody and don, and
poke around a bit as to who from the doj team isinvolved, and their
direction -- and then report back to everyone if I sense any
difficulty?  Let's assume everything is okay until there is contrary
evidence. Thanks




On 11/10/08, ricesusane@aol.com <ricesusane@aol.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Chris.
>
> Mary De Rosa is doing these issues from nat sec side and is already
plugged
> into DOJ team as I understand it.
>
> Is there more we should do, in your view, to ensure appropriate
lash-up?
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Christopher Edley" <cedley@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:52:07
> To: John Podesta<john.podesta@gmail.com>; Susan
Rice<ricesusane@aol.com>;
> Stern, Todd<todd.stern@wilmerhale.com>; Lisa
Brown<lisabrown3660@gmail.com>;
> Don Gips<don.gips@level3.com>; Melody Barnes<mbarnes@barackobama.com>;
> Cassandra Butts<cbutts.obama08@gmail.com>
> Subject: GTMO, Torture, renditions, etc.
>
>
> Todd et al.,
>
> I'm writing to ask where we stand with respect to working through the
> national securities law and civil liberties law concerning the topics
> above.  I believe we agreed that some cross-talk between the National
> Security team and the DOJ/Domestic team is required, but I don't
recall
> getting to closure on which individuals have the lead.
>
> The exchange I had with Susan Rice at the last Board meeting is
> illustrative
> of the difficulty. There can be an inherent tension between the
national
> security perspective and the Rule of Law perspective. As we know, this
> played out in the Bush Administration rather tragically, and the vast
> majority of legal observers believe that the DOJ participants acted in
a
> manner that -- at a minimum -- violated fundamental ethical and
> professional
> principles, if not the Law.  As a formal matter, whatever course of
policy
> and action the Obama Administration adopts on these issues, clearance
by
> OLC
> and the Attorney General will be required, as well as review by White
House
> Counsel.
>
> So, I believe the Transition should likewise get the right set of
> perspectives around a table sooner rather than later.
>
> There is another, related issue that deserves some attention: The role
of
> OLC in relation to the State Department Legal Adviser (L).  The Bush
> Administration broke with precedent by shifting more authority to OLC
for
> definitive resolution of questions of international law and treaty
> interpretation.  L was consulted, but the formal lead rested with OLC.
> Earlier administrations allowed the State Department to have the lead.
> What
> will be the practice in the Obama Administration?  There are arguments
in
> both directions. It would be good to get this resolved before the
> appointees
> are selected.
>
> I am interested in these issues, having taught National Security Law.
But I
> know there are several terrific lawyers who could contribute a lot:
Eric
> Holder, Jamie Gorelick, Larry Tribe, Cass Sunstein, Alex Aleinikoff.
>
>
> --
> (personal email)
> Christopher Edley, Jr.
> Professor and Dean
> UC Berkeley Law School
>
>

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